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Find More DiscussionsShould have had at least an honorable mention to "The Dam Busters."
These are all good picks (and pics).
There are a half-dozen which should receive an honorable mention:
1. 'Mister Roberts' (1955) is a classic film which portrays what happens behind the front lines, specifically in the Pacific. The title character is eager to get into the fighting but is continually frustrated by his jealous and incompetent skipper. Hank Fonda & Jimmy Cagney!
2. 'The Enemy Below' (1957) Probably is the Allied counterpart to the German film 'Das Boot'. Robert Mitchum is the skipper of a US destroyer hunting a U-boat in the Atlantic. The two captains play a deadly cat and mouse game with each other until they meet one final time in a rather dramatic fashion. Curt Jurgens is the U-boat skipper. And for the snobs, this film is in color.
3. 'Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison' (1957) Deborah Kerr is a nun and James Mitchum is a marine who are trapped on an island and are forced to hide as the Japanese take over.
4. Jeffrey Hunter basically made a career starring in several war movies:
'The
Longest Day' (1962), 'No Man is an Island' (1961), 'Hell to Eternity'
(1960), and one film from early n his career, 'Sailor of the King'
(1953), where Hunter as a marooned sailor holds off a damaged German
raider which has sought shelter at a remote island.
5. IDK how Audie Murphy's bio-pic 'To Hell and Back' (1955) missed the cut, but there. Audie Murphy stars as himself as the Allies advance thru France heading for a show-down with the Reich.
6. For fans of later movies, 'The Big Red One' (1980) by Sam Fuller, starring Lee Marvin, is a look at how one unit fights its way from Africa, to Sicily and Italy, and beyond. Kind of a GI version of 'Patton'. Mark Hamill left his light saber at home for this one.
Mr. Roberts is an all-time great that for some reason has fallen off the radar.
2. The Enemy Below, which the Star Trek episode 'Balance of Terror' was a direct ripoff of, though interesting in it's own way.
Don't forget William Powell in his last major film role! :)
The Enemy Below is probably the best depiction of the Battle of the Atlantic at the tactical level. I saw the movie when it first came out in 1957. I didn't see again until the 1980s and realized that it even included Ultra before it was officially declassified. The movie is loosely based on the engagement of the USS Borie (DD-215) and U-405. This was the last engagement where the order "stand by to repel borders" was given.
I'm glad to see Audie Murphy mentioned. He was an outstanding soldier and his memoir of the war, To Hell and Back, is first-rate. I believe he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
In Harm's Way captivates as soap opera but the mishmosh of the land campaigns on Guadalcanal and some of the naval actions off Leyte Gulf is mostly off target. When it comes to weapons and tactics, I find it one of the most laughable military movies ever made. Although it is about the US Navy, it fails to even mention the two naval forces that ultimately lead to victory- American superiority in producing aircraft carriers and naval aviators and the submarine blockade that starved Japan of war materials and fuel. The gunboats it celebrates were mostly used as floating AA batteries to protect the carriers it ignores.
I'm certain the veterans of the Solomons campaign enjoy hearing their sacrifices being dismissed so lightly and out of hand. I mean, it's not as though they held the line for the better part of a year while those new carriers worked up or anything, right?
Where did I dismiss the sacra fices of the real Guadalcanal campaign? It was an amazing story that never played out anywhere close to where the main island action is In Harm's Way played out with a cheesy coastwatcher and paratroopers.
Maybe I am confused, but isn't In Harms Way about: (1) A golden years love affair, (2) the last minute redemption by suicidal sacrifice of a screwball Naval officer, and finally (3) nepotism in the Navy?
I would also include..
1. "Twelve O'clock High"
http://veehd.com/search?q=]Twelve+Oclock+high
2. "Fighter Squadron"
http://veehd.com/video/4580061...
3. "Merrill's Marauders"
http://veehd.com/video/4506001...
4. "Task Force"
http://www.primewire.ag/watch-...
5. "Battle Cry"
http://veehd.com/video/2397938...
6. "A Walk in the Sun"
http://veehd.com/video/4510668...
7. "Hell is for Heroes"
I'd add "American Guerrilla in the Philippines."-1950. Directed by Fritz Lang, starring Tyrone Power and actually shot in the Philippines. It is the story of an American who didn't surrender after the fall of Bataan and Corregidor as well as of the tremendous resistance of the Filipino population.
It is based on several groups of Americans who fought guerrilla operations with the Filipinos. They tied down a lot of Japanese troops that couldn't be sent to combat elsewhere as well as provided intelligence and support for MacArthur's return.
You've used so many films in other lists this one comes close to being random. Given the fact Hollywood films are fantasist, probably the film that's closest to some version of reality is The Best Years of Our Lives. It nicely balances gung-ho with pragmatism and questioning without being maudlin or anti-American in the way films about such subject matter have been for some decades now. The film never gives an answer, but instead stipulates there are causes worth dying for but never to the point those deaths shouldn't at least be measured and questioned.
I would point at one largely forgotten Steve McQueen film called Hell is for Heroes as being good to watch, although it was as panned by critics as Soldier in the Rain, another McQueen film I just love.
Critics panned Soldier in the Rain? If they did. it was probably because the film humanized soldiers. Elitist critics can't have that.
I don't know why people don't like that film. McQueen's biographer Marc Elliot savages it. The real reason it got lost is it opened 5 days after Kennedy got shot. I just love that film. Blake Edwards wrote and directed it.
I have a nagging inclination to substitute The Big Red One for Patton They both cover roughly the same time span and operational areas. Everyone knows Patton -- it's a better movie -- but here's the thing: War from the POV of a general is not the same as the POV of guys who got lost/dirty/maimed fighting it. And, btw, Patton didn't see D-Day, but the characters in Big Red One sure as hell did. (Hey, kids! Want to learn why using a Bangalore torpedo while under enemy fire was so much fun? Look no further.)
Patton didn't see D-Day because he was a part of the ruse to fool the Germans. They were convinced he would be on the front lines of the invasion, so when D-Day opened up his noninvolvement was one of the reasons the German high command continued to downplay the invasion at Normandy! He more than made up for it once they got the tanks ashore and pointed toward Paris! One other point on this list - more should have been made of the nullification of the German Navy - Enigma could have been included at least!
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I've long held that the Italian campaign, in spite of its being so hard and long fought is one of the overlooked parts of WW II. In his "The Day of Battle" history, Rick Atkinson pretty much confirmed that for me and for ever. The mountains, the weather, all that pasta, miseries in capital infantry letters.
Although this movie
pretty much involves none of that, I still enjoy occasional re-viewings
of "A Walk in the Sun". I don't remember the names of any of the actors
or even the director, but as a way former infantryman,
it certainly dramatizes what it's like to go on an operation and have to deal with dangers within and with out.
The cast etc....
I was actually going to suggest A Walk In The Sun myself. Very underrated movie, IMO.
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Very underrated. I used to watch it on TV back in the Bronx of the '50s and '60s and I saw it so many times that when I took my all-expense-paid tour of somewhat sunny Southeast Asia "a walk in the sun" became my witticism for going out on patrol, even on the somewhat days.
Lewis Milestone, the film's director won two Best Director Oscars for other films according to the Wicki people so it kind of surprises me that the film has no repute these days.
What about the movie Casablanca, with Claude Raines, Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Bergman, and Paul Henried? Also, Key Largo, with Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, Sidney Greenstreet, and someone else whose name I have forgotten.
How about Flying Tigers? Tell the story of the americons fighting the axis before the US actually got involved.
Another good movie regarding the submarine combat in the Atlantic is "Das boot"
Nothing covering the Russian front?
For the Russian Front, try "Enemy at the Gates," with Jude Law, Bob Hoskins, and Ed Harris. Subtract out the mushy stuff, and it's near to a true account of a Soviet sniper's life during the siege of Stalingrad.
It's a miniseries not a movie, but it's hard to beat Band of Brothers.
Dang, I was sure Kelly's Heroes and he Incredible Mr. Limpet would have made the top 10. : )
I really like Where Eagles Dare with Richard Burton and a very young Clint Eastwood and Enemy at the Gates with Ed Harris and Jude Law as well as The Great Escape, Steve McQueen, James Rockford, several other big name stars. Also The Dirty Dozen. Schindler's List I think also has to be on a 10 Best WWII movies. Probably my most favorite is The Longest Day, about the D-day invasion.
Greetings:
At the risk of abusing your hospitality site-wise, something has occurred to me in thinking about WW II movies that I would like to share.
Growing up in the Bronx of the '50s and '60s, there were any number of WW II based war movies, coming and going, both in the local double-feature theaters and on all those new-fangled television sets. As a growing boy, I pretty much always found them of significant interest and when my local peers would decide that this or that day would be a WW II day a good bit of the action in those movies would be emulated be it to a boyish degree.
Many years later, when my own military draft was, as they used to say, "impending", my father engaged me is several serious discussions about service in the military, about what I could expect and what I should avoid. Until then, my father had been mostly circumspect about any details of his own experiences as one of Mr. Browning's Automatic Riflemen in the Pacific Theater, but then a new priority had emerged.
The result of all these things was a kind of ample preparation for all those infantry experiences in my immediate future, certainly more than one might expect from one of today's week-long business seminars.
Which brings me to my point. With today's dearth of military themed movies (and with most of those including some degree of Progressive subversion) and with such a small percentage of our population having any military experience of their own, are we in danger of having a cultural deficit in regard to mentally and physically preparing our young men for service in our nation's military branches?
I suspect computer games are picking up the slack. I still distinctly remember the Normandy landing sequence out of "Medal of Honor". They drop the ramp, and the entire front row goes away, and the only thing running through my head is "Oh my god, I'm going to die now."
Greetings, Harry Voyager:
I'm afraid that computer games are one of the holes in my cultural development. I couldn't even handle "Pong" primarily due to my "Room to Move" need when excitement starts to build. All of which is not to denigrate your point. Several of the books that I've read about Iraq and Afghanistan mentioned the proclivity of our soldiers to engage in those activities. In Chris Kyle's "American Sniper", he mentions them although I seem to remember one being Tiger Woods' golfing game.
But just let me say this, I sure hope you're right because I sure believe that there is such a need.
Computer games can't replicate what you described. The scene in Private Ryan did the best at trying to so far, IMO.
Greetings, Beloit Frederick:
Back during my all-expense-paid tours of somewhat sunny Southeast Asia, one of my deep personal hates was for the Army's Chinook helicopter. The miracle of its twin tandem rotors would leave pebbles imbedded in your epidermis for the next week or so, but what really bugged me was the only one exit ramp which so much reminded me of the way the ramps went down on all those Higgins boats in the D-Day newsreels.
To paraphrase Moms Mobley, the only thing a Chinook could do for me would be to bring me a Huey.
My best friend was an Army Doc in VN. His war trauma [/s] was caused by a very, very loud and large air conditioner at a medical facility next to which he was supposed to sleep. He never did apply for PTSD welfare though. Just one of the many, many reasons we are friends.
Every man should be inducted into the national guard on June 1st when he is 17 years of age and complete a 90 day basic infantryman training course. Every man on June 1st when he is 18 years old, should complete a 90 day course in a more advanced training phase. Every man should serve, be tested for health and educational accomplishment. And this idiocy of having the nation pay for air conditioning schools in summer will have to cease.
Most of these men will not have to serve in active reserve units, but some will be selected to. There should be no exemptions for national service.
I realize that your list is intended to be US-centric, but I would nominate Conspiracy, which tells the story of the Wansee Conference. It is based upon actual notes smuggled out by one of the participants and starts Kenneth Branagh in an exceptionally chilling portrayal of Heydrich. It is the best possible portrayal or Hannah Arendt's line about the banality of evil. A bonus is Stanley Tucci as the fastidiously precise murderous bureaucrat Eichmann.
Likewise, Downfall is worth watching. Everyone has seen the re-subtitled scenes and parodies, how about watching this meticulously recreated recreation of Hitler's final days in that bunker?
There is an earlier film about Wansee I like much better. It is very matter of fact, almost like a documentary.
On Further Review the list sucks.
Here is a better list that tells the story in rough WWII chronological order:
1. Tora Tora Tora.
2. Wake Island
2. Thirty Seconds over Tokyo
3. The Gallant Hours
4. Twelve O'Clock High
5. The Enemy Below
6. The Longest Day
7. Go For Broke
8. A Bridge Too Far
9. The Great Raid
10. The Enola Gay (1952 Version)
Why not "The Longest Day"?
After all, getting that collection of talent for one project is remarkable, in & of itself. Or is Cornelius Ryan out of favour these days?
1) Missing is 12 O'clock High.
2) Patton, while a good movie, spends more time Whitewashing Omar Bradley than it does Biographing George Smith Patton III
That's because one of the books used to make the screenplay was Omar Bradley's autobiography
Here's my top ten WWII movies. A Walk in the sun is my number 1 because it suggests what pretty much every combat infantryman experienced. All you know is what's 100 or so yards around you. All you have is the little picture.
My top war movie is a forgotten Sam Fuller cheapie ($104,000) made in the early 1950's set during the Korean War: "The Steel Helmet." It has a great opening few scenes. If you haven't seen it, it's worth your 85 minutes.
l. A walk in the Sun
2.The story of GI Joe
3. Schlinder's List
4. Heaven knows Mr. Allison
5. Screaming Eagles
6. I was an American Spy
7. Saving Private Ryan
8. Patton
9. Twelve O'Clock High
10. Beachhead
As I recall Judgment at Nuremburg wasn't about the trial of the highest-ranking Nazis. Lancaster played a judge on trial in that one.
How is it that both "To Hell and Back" and "The Battle of San Pietro" are missing? As for "In Harm's Way" it's fiction with bad production values.
Tora, Tora, Tora! The definitive Hollywood WWII movie, technically
correct in every detail except one, there were no sailors jumping over
the side of the Battleship Nevada. We see the detailed plans being
crafted for the attack, the rehearsals, the lack of White House
security, competent men working to decipher Japanese intentions, the
outstanding work of the harbor picket destroyer, which was manned by a
reserve crew, incompetent commanders who repeatedly ignored warnings
from radar operators and the destroyer, our Navy actually fired the
first shot of the war when a reservist crew hit and sank a Japanese
submarine attempting to penetrate the defenses. A mess steward who
manned an antiaircraft machine gun after all of the gun crew had been
killed around it. Dorie Miller, a man not permitted a combat role
because of his skin color.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
And Nagumo failing to persist when obliterating the Pacific fleet was in his grasp.
My late father was a WWII vet and did not like most WWII movies since he told me they glorified combat. My father was very "old school" and was hardly the touchy feely type. He took me to see "Apocalypse Now" (my first R rated movie) and liked the combat scenes since they were brutal and senseless and stripped away the "John Wayne glory BS" from war.